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OTH: Farewell, Rachel... Hello, Derek!?

So she got several people killed and she was a terrible human being, but we’ve seen the softer side of Rachel lately, and we’re going to miss that crazy kid! And on the flip side, we’re seeing the ugly side of Brooke! How could she let Rachel take the fall for her? And how could she be so self-righteous toward Peyton when she was hiding the fact that she cheated with Nathan for the last two years!? It’s incredible that karma doesn’t show up at her doorstep! Well, maybe it did in the form of Chase dumping her, but still... do you think Brooke is getting what she deserves?

For that matter -- is Peyton? If you don't like her, then you're probably loving the reappearance of Evil Derek... but if you do, then you're wondering how much more this girl can take in one school year! We have to admit -- we're freaked out about her safety.

Meanwhile, Brooke and Mouth headed to prom together and Haley and Nathan made up (thank goodness! We hate it when they fight). What'd you think of the Haley/Nathan drama this week? Was Haley right to be upset about his fling with Brooke? We're unsure -- on one hand, it really didn't have anything to do with their relationship, and some things are better left unsaid. But on the other hand, they're married, and couples should be honest with each other. It's one thing if Brooke were some random girl, but she's Haley's friend, and now Hales feels a bit betrayed by both Brooke and Nathan. We understand where she's coming from, and we think Nathan handled the situation well. How sweet is it that Hales was the only one on his list of girls he's loved? Deb's right -- Haley really has changed him over the past few years.

So much to discuss after this episode! Vote on the most shocking moment!

Plus, read a full recap and discuss in the comments!

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This whole thing about Nathan & Brooke is odd considering in a season one episdode, jokingly, nathan says 'why did we never hook up' to brooke...i believe it was the episode where she hooks him and hailey up on a date to reconcile things she screwed up. The writers must have thought everyone wouldnt remember that. ´

Bottom line everybody , is that What Brooke actually felt for lucas was far far more serios than what peyton felt for nathan . I mean Brooke was practicly falling head over heals for lucas . But peyton on the other hand was with nathan just because there wasn´t any one else . Yes . as said many times before , You can´t help who you fall in love with But you can controle your behavior . *

but to them, at the time, it was. It was real enough that they stayed together as long as they did, and that Nathan freaked out when he lost her.

When lucas asked peyton why she´s together with nathan she responded like this : 'well , sometimes it´s good (almost never)And sometimes there´s no one else'. It wasn´t serios . Nathan made out (as said before) With almost every girl in town even though peyton knew that they stayed together . I think was mostly because there was no one else , Not bacuse what they had was special or anything .


'The just didn't get the chance. As was already pointed out fairly recently, it's not like they were fooling around forever. They made out once, and decided that Lucas needed to end things. Stuff just got in the way.'


They had many chances , they just didn´t have the guts that´s all . That isn´t even an excuse to why they didn´t tell her . No they weren´t fooling around forever , but long enough to hurt brooke deply . And no , actully peyton and lucas made out more tha once .

The thing is , what Brooke and Lucas had in season 1 was far more serious and real then what peyton and nathan had . Even if they only dated for like 1 month .

See, that's the thing. If what they had was real, then Lucas wouldn't have been so quick to drop her the second Peyton showed interest again.

What Peyton and Nathan had may not have been real (they've since admitted that)- but to them, at the time, it was. It was real enough that they stayed together as long as they did, and that Nathan freaked out when he lost her.

Sure, Peyton and Nathan can't even COMPARE to Nathan and Hayley- but at the time, it did mean something to them, and Brooke didn't respect that. Besides, she had no intention of ever telling Peyton- or anyone- what happened. At least Lucas and Peyton had every intention of telling Brooke what had happened. The just didn't get the chance. As was already pointed out fairly recently, it's not like they were fooling around forever. They made out once, and decided that Lucas needed to end things. Stuff just got in the way.

But, I'm just going to refer back to all the people that already posted and remind people that it's not the POINT that Brooke slept with Nathan. Peyton doesn't care about that- she's with Lucas now, and they love eachother. What upsets Peyton is the fact that Brooke treated her like crap for months on end, as though she was a horrible person- when what Brooke did was no better! Brooke was the ultimate hypocrite.

In the end, though, I think even Brooke realized that. Why else would she be so upset that Peyton is angry with her? I mean, Brooke was actually HAPPY to see that Peyton had written 'whore' on her dress. Many people found it childish- but keep in mind, Brooke was absolutely THRILLED about it. Why? Because it means that Peyton cares enough about what Brooke did to be angry, instead of just pretending she didn't exist.

The fact that Brooke *wants* Peyton to be angry (and to care) shows that she not only realizes she was wrong- but that she wants to move on. It shows that Brooke's a bigger person than a lot of people give her credit for. Really, I think people need to cut both Peyton AND Brooke a little slack. They're only human (well, as human as television characters can be). When Peyton made out with Lucas- she was only human. She loved him, he loved her, they tried to be honest, it failed. When Brooke slept with Nathan- it was a bad decision. But who knows what was going on in her head that night or what feelings she may have carried around for him up until that point? People make bad decisions- again, only human. I think it's the humanity of these characters that has made us all fans from the get-go.

So, now- if Brooke's moved on from Lucas, and if Brooke wants Peyton to forgive her and move on... and if both characters are happy with their current relationships (or lack thereof), why can't we just be happy with them? Brooke's pretty much moved past the whole Lucas thing- isn't it time for everyone else to?

So, no. When Brooke HAD SEX with Nathan she was doing Peyton far worse than when Peyton MADE OUT with Lucas.


No , It was more to it than for peyton MAKING OUT with lucas . They sneaked around brookes back , And didn´t even bother to tell her .

Omg , people you can´t really mean that what peyton and nathan had was real , It´s like brooke said a bunch of night stands put together . There was fights all the time , making up after that and it went on and on and on . I mean For God´s sake nathan made out with every girl he saw when he was with peyton , and I wouldn´t pe surprised if it turns out that he even had sex with many of them . The thing is , what Brooke and Lucas had in season 1 was far more serious and real then what peyton and nathan had . Even if they only dated for like 1 month .

"Your argument doesn't make sense at all. You're saying that Leyton fans shouldn't argue with Brucas fans because Lucas and Peyton are together? So Leyton fans should just let Brucas fans grasp at straws and believe something is there that isn't as some sort of coping device for the fact that they're wrong?"

You know , We all have different opinions just beacause you think brucas are wrong doesn´t mean that the are .
However I do respect your opinion , hope you do the same wtih mine .

I just can´t get why you leytoners are arguing with us . I mean you got leyton now so why bother ? I know if I had Brucas I wouldn´t even think about coming here . It´s just so meaningless when you actually do have leyton together , what do you want more ? And I don´t mean this in a bad or mean way , just saying . Anyways I Do hope Lucas & Brooke find their way to eachother again . After all They are solemates .

A) They're fictional characters. Fictional characters are not 'soul mates'. However, the show itself has clearly been written with a Leyton slant from day one. Lucas and Peyton were CREATED to be with one another.

B)Your argument doesn't make sense at all. You're saying that Leyton fans shouldn't argue with Brucas fans because Lucas and Peyton are together? So Leyton fans should just let Brucas fans grasp at straws and believe something is there that isn't as some sort of coping device for the fact that they're wrong?

So, basically, Leyton fans should just shut their mouths and watch with amusement as Brucas fans refuse to acknowledge what the writers and actors have established as fact?

The logic just isn't there. If anything, the fact that Brooke and Lucas have tried- and FAILED- together twice should be proof enough that there isn't going to be a third time. Especially since the actors who PLAY these characters are divorced and, more than likely, do not want to pretend to be in a relationship ever again.

I just can´t get why you leytoners are arguing with us . I mean you got leyton now so why bother ? I know if I had Brucas I wouldn´t even think about coming here . It´s just so meaningless when you actually do have leyton together , what do you want more ? And I don´t mean this in a bad or mean way , just saying . Anyways I Do hope Lucas & Brooke find their way to eachother again . After all They are solemates .

YOU GUYS I DONT WANT TO HEAR ONE MORE THING ABOUT LUCAS OR DEREK YOU ARE MISSING THE MAIN MAN OF THE SHOW.....MOUTH MCFADDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIKE HE IS JUST SO LIKE GOSH DARN SEXAYYYYYYYYYYYYY....I MEAN HE IS CRAZY HOTTTT..AND IM TALKING P-H-A-T....HOW DO YOU THINK HE GOT HIS NICK NAME...YEAAAA DADDY...I WOULD KNOW....CLEAN TEAN WHAT????.....

..SO IM SAYING GET IT RIGHT MOUTH IS THAT HOTTEST MAN ALIVE

When is there a NEW One Tree Hill going on? This is ridiculous, Pussycat Dolls are on twice a week! They need to get a new One Tree Hill on SOON!!

okey, first off all it was probably houers later because nathan was not stupid enough to do it with peyton still in the house but thats not important when it was. the thing thats important is the word EX! EX EX EX can you PLEASE get it now im sick of saying it over and over again. even though sleeping with nathan was very wrong he was broken upp with peyton so that makes it not that bad! get it please. nathan and peyton were broken up when he had sex with brooke. lucas and brooke were still together when peyton made out with him. PLEASE GET IT.


Dude, how many relationships have you ever been in?

Because, seriously. Ending a relationship is NEVER as simple as saying 'it's over'. There's usually a period of a few days where the couple will talk and decide from there if they're going to get back together. This is clearly what happened in THIS situation, because Peyton and Nathan were back together within days (and up until Lucas came into the picture). So, no. Nathan wasn't her ex. They had a fight, she said they were broken up. But they broke up ALL the time- and got back together all the time. They got back together after this.

The only way that it EVER would have been ok for Brooke to do what she did would have been if she waited to find out that they were together FOR GOOD- and then talked to Peyton about it.

I'm not saying what Peyton did was OK- I'm just saying that Brooke isn't the saint all you kids are making her out to be.

Brooke was to Lucas, as Deb was to Dan. Just convenient fillers because the real thing got complicated.

UHM yeah shure, is that why he choosed brooke twice. And is that why he couldnt say i love you to peyton without making shure brooke was okay with it? no, if you love someone you tell them that when they say it to you. lucas said thank you!

Man, is your logic ever screwed up.

Lucas talked to Brooke before confessing he loved Peyton... therefore he loves Brooke?

How does that make sense at all?

The ONLY reason Lucas talked to Brooke first was because he wanted to make sure it was okay so that a)Brooke and Peyton could stay friends and b)He wouldn't have to deal with all the Brooke drama he dealt with in Season One, when she found out about him and Peyton.

Him talking to Brooke doesn't have ANYTHING to do with his feelings for her- he was covering his butt, and showing her respect. That's it.

Talk about reading too much into something.

Brooke was to Lucas, as Deb was to Dan. Just convenient fillers because the real thing got complicated.

UHM yeah shure, is that why he choosed brooke twice. And is that why he couldnt say i love you to peyton without making shure brooke was okay with it? no, if you love someone you tell them that when they say it to you. lucas said thank you!

Man, is your logic ever screwed up.

Lucas talked to Brooke before confessing he loved Peyton... therefore he loves Brooke?

How does that make sense at all?

The ONLY reason Lucas talked to Brooke first was because he wanted to make sure it was okay so that a)Brooke and Peyton could stay friends and b)He wouldn't have to deal with all the Brooke drama he dealt with in Season One, when she found out about him and Peyton.

Him talking to Brooke doesn't have ANYTHING to do with his feelings for her- he was covering his butt, and showing her respect. That's it.

Talk about reading too much into something.

OKAY. the FIRST TIME (first time omg) peyton stole lucas she was not honest about the crap, because brooke found out on her own! And what peyton did was worse because brooke and lucas was dating when she sneaked around with him behind brookes back and peyton and nathan were broken up

Just wanted to point out that the ONLY reason Peyton wasn't honest with Brooke was because she didn't have the chance to. She and Lucas had every intention of telling Brooke exactly what had happened- they were just looking to do so at the right time. Then Lucas got in the accident, and fell into a coma.

People make it out as though Lucas and Peyton were sneaking around behind Brooke's back from ages. The fact is, they made out ONCE, realized they were in love, and decided to tell Brooke. Stuff happened to interrupt that. She HAPPENED to find out on her own because Brooke was still hanging out at Lucas's place like some psycho stalker and went into his room and saw the webcam footage of them in the same room. She drew her OWN conclusions based on that- and those conclusions greatly exaggerated what actually happened.

Peyton and Lucas were never having a drawn-out love affair. In actual fact, timewise, it lasted a couple of days before the accident, and a couple of days after. That was it. And they spent the entire couple of days they WERE together TRYING to find a way to tell Brooke.

Not quite the drama some of you posters want to make it out to be, is it?

Oh, and PS? Peyton never really knew how much Brooke liked Lucas. I mean, Brooke had told her she really liked him and was starting to fall for him- but this was after a month of dating. She never actually said, "I love Lucas." So Peyton made out with a guy Brooke had dated for a month in, what? Grade 10? Big deal.

I think that any adult who has been in a real relationship (a couple years or more) can agree that one month is nothing.

I also had to add this:

I REALLY don't understand how some people can say "Peyton didn't care about Nathan NEARLY as much as Brooke cared about Lucas. Therefore, Peyton did worse that Brooke."

Uh, hello? Brooke and Lucas dated for about ONE MONTH when Peyton started seeing him behind Brooke's back. That's it. You cannot compare that ONE MONTH to the LOOOOONG relationship Nathan and Peyton had. Sure, it was a rocky relationship. But it was also very important to both of them (as can be seen in the episode where Nathan shows Peyton where he carved her initials into the weights at the school gym when they were going out).

Looking back, Nathan and Peyton's relationship was a joke. But it wasn't to them- not at the time. And Brooke violated that. All Peyton did was make out with a guy her friend had been seeing for a month (and who she was interested in first).

Even the second time around, Brooke and Lucas didn't date for very long. Sure they 'loved eachother'- but obviously not very much if she was able to move on from him so quickly. All Peyton did was confess she still had feelings for Lucas. Brooke just jumped on that so she'd have an excuse to end a relationship she really wasn't into anyways.

So, no. When Brooke HAD SEX with Nathan she was doing Peyton far worse than when Peyton MADE OUT with Lucas.

Dude, I don't understand why so many people think that Lucas and Brooke are a good couple. They have absolutely nothing in common, he behaved at his absolute worst when he was with her, and they just look weird together.

Lucas and Peyton are meant to be together. That's been clear from the very first episode. If you've seen the show from the very beginning, you KNOW that Peyton and Lucas will be together in the end. They're two halves of the same whole.

I find it annoying that Brooke would be so rude to Peyton. Sure, yeah. Peyton betrayed her- Brooke betrayed her first. Sure, Peyton and Nathan may have been broken up- but they broke up all the time (and got back together). Also, as has already been said, friends just don't (and shouldn't) go there.

Besides, Peyton and Lucas had a connection LONG before he dated Brooke. Brooke KNEW this. She KNEW she was Lucas's second choice. What did she expect to happen? If she was any sort of best friend, she would have known that Peyton was just denying her feelings for Lucas in the beginning and that she wanted him from day one- and she NEVER would have dated Lucas. Lucas wouldn't have ever gone there with Brooke, either, if a)she hadn't chased him and b)he hadn't been turned down by Peyton.

I'm just so ticked off that we have to wait another several weeks to see a new episodes. For what? So we can watch a bunch of girls dressed in miniskirts traipse about, dance like strippers, and create even MORE self-esteem issues for young girls? Great idea, that.

I don't think Lucas is going to realize something has happened to Peyton for a while. After all- the last time she saw him, she said she wasn't going to prom. So if he shows up and she's dressed and ready, he'll probably just assume that she decided not to go to prom- in which case, he'll go to prom alone. I'm sure that, by the end of the episode, he'll realize something's wrong. In the meantime, Evil-Derek will have probably hurt her already (I just hope he doesn't kill her! If they killed Peyton off, I'd probably stop watching the show).

I've learned from years of TV watching that, if you stop the bad guy the first time, he usually gets his way the second time around. So he'll probably get his way with Peyton, at least for a bit. Then, hopefully, he'll get what's coming to him in the end.

OMG people how stupid can you be,Peyton said "now you can go sleep with whatever skank you want"she didn't say "why don't you sleep with my drunk ass whore of a bestfriend".

okay, but since brooke is a whore, that would make her a skank too right? and she did say sleep with whatever skank you want. and oh! if she said he could sleep with whoever he wanted that includes brooke, omg your not even lissening to her words. if that didnt mean what it sounded like then how do we knowshe really loves lucas when she sais she does. i mean she just sais one thing but means another!

OMG people how stupid can you be,Peyton said "now you can go sleep with whatever skank you want"she didn't say "why don't you sleep with my drunk ass whore of a bestfriend".

OMG LIKE WHAT IS TAKING SO LONG FOR THE NEW EPISODE!!! I'M LIKE SOO GETTING SICK OF WATCHING THE PUSSY CAT DOLLS!! I HAVENT WATCH CW11 EVER SINCE THEY HAVENT PUT A NEW EPISODE OF ONE TREE HILL!! SO GUYS PUT THE NEW EPISODE LIKE SOON PLEASE!!

They CAN`T put the show up in May 2. I´ve waited soo long for this!!!!! I wanna see what will happen to Peyton!!! ARRGH!!!

Okay I am just saying my views because i can't read through every comment written or i'll be here all night.

Personally i think Brooke did the worse thing I mean Brooke seriously jepordised her frienship with Peyton over a guy she lusted just a fling nothing more while Peyton she loved Lucas and could no longer burry her feelings so she KISSED not slept with Lucas because it was meaningful so at least Peyton risked the friesndship for something meaningful. Even though Peyton and Nathan were broken up at the time still you don't sleep with your suppose best friend's ex!!

Also when Brooke found out that Lucas and Peyton kissed for the second time could she really get that angry i mean seriously she was shot bleeding to death thinking she was going to die and she was beside the man she loved what was she going to do risk knowing that she never said how she felt and died knowing that....

Also Peyton knew that she had wronged so she took the crap Brooke gave to her until a certain point when Brooke crossed the line but when Brooke was in the wrong she actually egged Peyton's window i mean who does that?? What did she expcet Peyton to do hug her and go i guess we're even know even though what Brooke put her through even mentioning about her dead mom's that is just cruel! I know loads of people are obviosuly going to disagree with me on this mostly Brucas fans but although i may not seem i like i also love Brooke i might love Peyton slightly more. At first i thought them fighting was funny but know i just missed the orginal Hoes Over Bros!! they were really good friends i think they should go back to that!!

Oh my gosh why are they waiting so long to play a new episode of one tree hill i cant wait that long to see what happens. Poor Peyton she has been threw so much know crazy Derick is back. Lucas is so much sexier then Derrick and has a nicer body. Derrick just needs to leave Peyton alone because he is messing up her life. Well i cant wait till the new episode to see what happens and so i can see my sexy man Lucas

OKAY I WANT TO KNOW WHY ITS NOT GOING TO BE ON UNTIL MAY 2ND!!!! WHAT IS GOING ON?? IS IT BECAUSE OF THE PUSSYCAT SHOW OR SOMETHING?? OTH IS SO MUCH BETTER THEN THAT SHOW....ITS REPEATS ON WEDNESDAY TOO! I AM SO CONFUSED AND I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY SUDDENLY SWITCHED THE DATE..WE'VE BEEN WAITING LONG ENOUGH AND I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT ON WEDNESDAY..

You guyz may think im a freak. I love derek! he is soooooooo hot, i mean no i dont want peyton to get hurt or die or have her story ruined but i love derek i think hes so hott have you seen his body lol


GROSS! he lookes totally terrible!

You guyz may think im a freak. I love derek! he is soooooooo hot, i mean no i dont want peyton to get hurt or die or have her story ruined but i love derek i think hes so hott have you seen his body lol

and remember brooke did slap peyton when peyton told her she still had feelings for lucas

No no no , Brooke slapped peyton after she twist her words around . Not because peyton told brooke about her feelings for lucas . And Please try to keep up . It´s ridicilous how you keep posting the same things over and over again , I mean seriosly can leytoners read ?

ok i belive that peyton had every right to punch brooke. i mean even if it was a long time brooke should of told her a long time ago. no matter how drunk she was, she couldn't of forgotton (i mean who will forget sex with nathan the guy is HOT). and remember brooke did slap peyton when peyton told her she still had feelings for lucas. she was honest she said that she could bury those feelings but brooke slapped her and told her their friendship was over. then she made a joke about her two dead mothers i mean who does that. so peyton was right to punch her but hopefully they will resolve this soon because i do miss breyton

Both did terrible misstakes , no excuse for that . But honestly I think what peyton did was far more awful because of several reasons .

Brooke didnt even touch peyton when she first stole lucas, peyton punched brooke, destroyed her promdress and attacked her. that girl is mongo!

"Peyton broke up with Lucas before she knew that Brooke had found out about Lucas and her." She cut off the affair on her own. Not because she got caught or anything, but because she decided to do the right thing.

You make up stuffs to make Peyton look bad.


look she did do that but the thing is that she had told lucas off before to and that is our point! for gods sake read the past posts so we dont have to explain over and over again. peyton told lucas several times before, that " we cant to this" and " im not gonna throw my friendship with brooke away over a fling" but then she keept on kissing him wich is why that last time she told him off it didnt mean jack. if she had stuck to what she said before we would all agree that she broke it off with him but we dont sence she told him of before and then started facesucking him.


And besides, she slept with him like minutes after Peyton walked out on Nathan. Oh wait! That was just seconds! And when she heard Nathan say that he got dumped she just got all excited and got that slutty look on her face.


okey, first off all it was probably houers later because nathan was not stupid enough to do it with peyton still in the house but thats not important when it was. the thing thats important is the word EX! EX EX EX can you PLEASE get it now im sick of saying it over and over again. even though sleeping with nathan was very wrong he was broken upp with peyton so that makes it not that bad! get it please. nathan and peyton were broken up when he had sex with brooke. lucas and brooke were still together when peyton made out with him. PLEASE GET IT.

Peyton made a mistake, but she apologized, admitted it and was horribly treated for it.

Brooke made a mistake but didn't fess up to it. Won't even admit that she's wrong even though she clearly knows that she is.

And that's where you see the difference in their character.


peyton never fessed up to anything she would not have told brooke, brooke found out on her own so dont use that as a lame excuse! And brooke said she was sorry to but then peyton punched her!!! when peyton made out with lucas when he was still dating brooke the first time brooke loved him and cared for him but she didnt even touch peyton. when brooke slept with nathan when he and peyton were broken up and peyton didnt even love him peyton had the freaken nerve to PUNCH BROOKE IN THE FACE! now thats twisted and sick.
that my friend shows the difference in characters.

"Peyton broke up with Lucas before she knew that Brooke had found out about Lucas and her." She cut off the affair on her own. Not because she got caught or anything, but because she decided to do the right thing.

You make up stuffs to make Peyton look bad.


look she did do that but the thing is that she had told lucas off before to and that is our point! for gods sake read the past posts so we dont have to explain over and over again. peyton told lucas several times before, that " we cant to this" and " im not gonna throw my friendship with brooke away over a fling" but then she keept on kissing him wich is why that last time she told him off it didnt mean jack. if she had stuck to what she said before we would all agree that she broke it off with him but we dont sence she told him of before and then started facesucking him.


And besides, she slept with him like minutes after Peyton walked out on Nathan. Oh wait! That was just seconds! And when she heard Nathan say that he got dumped she just got all excited and got that slutty look on her face.


okey, first off all it was probably houers later because nathan was not stupid enough to do it with peyton still in the house but thats not important when it was. the thing thats important is the word EX! EX EX EX can you PLEASE get it now im sick of saying it over and over again. even though sleeping with nathan was very wrong he was broken upp with peyton so that makes it not that bad! get it please. nathan and peyton were broken up when he had sex with brooke. lucas and brooke were still together when peyton made out with him. PLEASE GET IT.

Peyton made a mistake, but she apologized, admitted it and was horribly treated for it.

Brooke made a mistake but didn't fess up to it. Won't even admit that she's wrong even though she clearly knows that she is.

And that's where you see the difference in their character.


peyton never fessed up to anything she would not have told brooke, brooke found out on her own so dont use that as a lame excuse! And brooke said she was sorry to but then peyton punched her!!! when peyton made out with lucas when he was still dating brooke the first time brooke loved him and cared for him but she didnt even touch peyton. when brooke slept with nathan when he and peyton were broken up and peyton didnt even love him peyton had the freaken nerve to PUNCH BROOKE IN THE FACE! now thats twisted and sick.
that my friend shows the difference in characters.

Peyton said the "sleep with whoever you want" statement to NATHAN, NOT BROOKE!

When Brooke slept with him she didn't know that Peyton said that. So why do you make it appear that Peyton had given them the blessing to have sex.

And besides, she slept with him like minutes after Peyton walked out on Nathan. Oh wait! That was just seconds! And when she heard Nathan say that he got dumped she just got all excited and got that slutty look on her face.

And please, the "drunk" excuse? Totally a bull.

How can someone who got the sense to worry about a camera not be aware that she is under her friend's ex-for-10-minutes-boyfriend?

Face it, Brooke screwed up bigtime, by screwing Nathan. No excuse.

Peyton made a mistake, but she apologized, admitted it and was horribly treated for it.

Brooke made a mistake but didn't fess up to it. Won't even admit that she's wrong even though she clearly knows that she is.

And that's where you see the difference in their character.

OKAY this statement is totally off the mark

from anonymous:
"No I´m no , I mean she could of stopped you know at the hotel and in lucas´ room and all . They decided to put a stop to it when brooke actually found out herself . By that I mean they could of stopped before brooke found out . That´s what I was saying . You get me ?"


Let me make this clear. Peyton broke up with Lucas before Brooke found out, okay? Get it? Before!

Really, everyone should watch the past epi first before leaving comments to avoid all the nonsense.

You make it appear like Lucas and Peyton would have continued the relationship had Brooke not found out.

You should really watch the episode again. Peyton didn't even go to Lucas' place when he asked him to because she was feeling bad for Brooke who got dumped by Lucas. And then eventually she did break up with him. (CHECK THE SCENE WHERE THEY WERE TALKING OUTSIDE LUCAS' BEDROOM)

That happened BEFORE they knew that Brooke had found out about them. So when Peyton broke up with him, she did it on her own accord. Not because they got caught.

Once again, I'm gonna say it lest you didn't get it the first time:

"Peyton broke up with Lucas before she knew that Brooke had found out about Lucas and her." She cut off the affair on her own. Not because she got caught or anything, but because she decided to do the right thing.

You make up stuffs to make Peyton look bad.

Stick to the facts of the show. Don't write your own script.

It was actually supposed to be on tonight but for some reason Channel 11 in STL showed the pussycat dolls. No one cares bout that we want our one tree hill. There was a new promo as well.

okay all i have to say is well one when is this show comeing back on its hasnt been on in 3 WEEKS !!! I cant stand it anymore I want to see what happens. Its seriously not even funny anymore. And ewww peyton needs to just like go away for good. Brook is so much better then her. im sorry i sure other peole like her but yeah i dont. just saying. Shes doesnt deserve to get luckuse brook does!!

ok, guys, the fight over brooke and peyton, give it up, peyton is a misunderstood lover who's deep and artistic and brooke is a whore with a bunch of pretty words, that's who they r and we love them both!


nonono...brooke is a cool girl with a past, peyton was a cool girl but she has a present...

ok, guys, the fight over brooke and peyton, give it up, peyton is a misunderstood lover who's deep and artistic and brooke is a whore with a bunch of pretty words, that's who they r and we love them both!

i liked brooke with chase, i think he really could've changed her b4 she corrupted him, especially with rachel now gone, they NEED to get back together!!!!

ok.. first of all... peyton needs to stop having bad things happen to her.. its so much its starting to be so unrealistic.. and sort of inhumain...

Antoher thing.. Haley totally has the right to know what Nathan was up to prior their relationship... if she didnt want to know she wouldnt have asked for the list.

Every one thinks brook is prob. the biggest "whore" in the entire world... but c'mon when ur drunk and at a party.. things happen... besides peyton did say they were over... and obvi. it didnt mean anything to either Nathan or Brooke considering they never mentioned it at all... although it is nathans fault for not deleting the tape in the first place. Hey at least brook didnt end up preggers from that one night.. (can hardly remember... diidnt mean anythin)stand!!!!

I would say peyton and brooke are pretty even...except peyton was totally sobre when her and lucas went out behind brooks back...thers no excuse for that!!At least Brooke has a better excuse... she was kinda wasted..?!?!NOt sayin that is a good thing.. but... Brooke an Peytins grudges should go away... they are both guilty.?!

Another thing, are you saying that Peyton NEVER stopped dating Lucas for Brooke? Because I totally beg to differ

No I´m no , I mean she could of stopped you know at the hotel and in lucas´ room and all . They decided to put a stop to it when brooke actually found out herself . By that I mean they could of stopped before brooke found out . That´s what I was saying . You get me ?

they were BOTH going to tell her about THEM, TOGETHER...but Lucas got into the car accident and they never got the chance to tell...whereas Brooke, had all the time in the world to tell Peyton about Nathan and she never once planned to do it.

So if Brooke didn't want her hook up with Nathan to be a big deal, she shouldn't have gotten pissed off about Lucas and Peyton's kiss.


first of all they were going to tell her before but they didnt, so they probably would not have done it anyway. and brooke got pissed off because peyton had kissed lucas THE FIRST TIME THEY DATED 2! whats worse...sleeping with a friends ex ONCE ore making out with your best friends BOYFRIEND SEVERAL TIMES WHILE THEY ARE STILL DATING?

BROOKE HAD SEX WITH NATHAN WHILE PEYTON AND NATHAN WERE TOGETHER!


OH MY GOOD! WHAT PART OF " WE ARE BROKEN UP GO SLEP WITH WHOEVER YOU WANT2 DONT YOU UNDERSTAND????


BROOKE HAD SEX WITH NATHAN WHILE PEYTON AND NATHAN WERE TOGETHER! I like brooke and all... but this was kind of a turning point for me. All the time Brooke is always mad at peyton for cheating with lucas.... yes i understand it was mean and all, but she did the same excat thing. Also when peyton and lucas were together, they did not have sex. all they did was like kiss and sneak around. Yeah brooke was drunk, and so was nathan, but she should still know it is not right to sleep with her best friends boyfriend. We all know brooke is kind of a slut, so she could take anyone she gets. I totally understand why peyton is hurt. Brooke always thinks about herself, and no one else. She knew she would have fun with nathan, but she did even think to think that it would hurt peyton. Brooke just needs to lay off drinking, and lay off other peoples boyfriends. I still like brooke, i just think what she did was a little lame and a little low. I think peyton and brooke should just give their friendship a rest for a little while. They both should not let boys get into their friendships =) Also... PHYSCO DERICK IS BACK! how weird is that....! i knew he was not dead. i knew he would be back. One Tree Hill would not let anything happen to Peyton, she is like one of the main charaters. Also what the hell is up with everyones hair! I mean nathan, you are the most sexy thing on the planet... but your hair is starting to look really bad. It is really long and it looks drity. I LOVE nathans hair when it is shaved (like in the 3rd season) i also like it when it is a little long. Now it is just like over grown. I also think lucas's hair looks like crap. It is like black and blond, it is parted right down the middle, and it is like straightned! He totally needs a hair cut. And what is up with the clothes he is wearing???? I guess he is just into a really bad slump. I liked when he would just wear t-shirts, and sweatshrits. I just think now he looks like a total mess. :( please mark, fix them up!!! Also, if nathan and haley ever brake up, I WILL NEVER WATCH ONE TREE HILL EVER AGAIN! it is my favortie show.... and it would be really hard for me to give it up. I cried for hours when i watched the second season. I still cry. Nathan and Haley are ment to be together. I think they have been through so much together, and nothing can stop them now. They are america's number 1 couple. If you make them brake up, you will be losing alot of really awesome fans. I do not like peyton and lucas together. I totally like lucas and brooke together. I think they are so much better together. Remember "I'm the one for you brooke davis?" i like
Lucas-Brooke
Peyton-Jake
NATHAN-HALEY
Mouth- GiGi (or maybe rachel)
Keith-Karen
AND DAN ALL BY HIMSELF!
Are we ever going to find out the predictions that nathan and haley wrote down in the thrid season? i really want to know. I think everyone forgot about them.
Well, thanks for listening! if you guys want to reply... i will answer you back!

Nathan and Haley <3

Yes but still Peyton and nathan weren´t dating at the time . And yes , brooke should have been the one to put a stop to it , But the again peyton went behind brookes back and she could of easly stopped as well , plus that brooke and lucas were DATING unlike peyton and nathan.

Another thing, are you saying that Peyton NEVER stopped dating Lucas for Brooke? Because I totally beg to differ.

OKAY. the FIRST TIME (first time omg) peyton stole lucas she was not honest about the crap, because brooke found out on her own! And what peyton did was worse because brooke and lucas was dating when she sneaked around with him behind brookes back and peyton and nathan were broken up.

That's true, but we all know that Lucas and Peyton had planned to tell her all about everything, remember??? Lucas was going to break up with Brooke and they were BOTH going to tell her about THEM, TOGETHER...but Lucas got into the car accident and they never got the chance to tell...whereas Brooke, had all the time in the world to tell Peyton about Nathan and she never once planned to do it.

So if Brooke didn't want her hook up with Nathan to be a big deal, she shouldn't have gotten pissed off about Lucas and Peyton's kiss.

Brooke was to Lucas, as Deb was to Dan. Just convenient fillers because the real thing got complicated.

UHM yeah shure, is that why he choosed brooke twice. And is that why he couldnt say i love you to peyton without making shure brooke was okay with it? no, if you love someone you tell them that when they say it to you. lucas said thank you!

In season 1 Lucas pursued Peyton. He was in love with Peyton and wanted to be with Peyton. Peyton told him off and said that she didn't want to hurt Brooke. And yes, she did gave in eventually. She did sneak around with Lucas behind Brooke's back, BUT SHE LATER BROKE UP WITH LUCAS coz she didn't want to do that to Brooke. GET IT? SHE BROKE UP WITH LUCAS and CHOSE BROOKE OVER LUCAS EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS IN LOVE WITH HIM. SHE BROKE UP WITH LUCAS BEFORE BROOKE FOUND OUT, OK? THEY DIDN'T BREAK UP BECAUSE THEY GOT CAUGHT.

So what if she told him of, it doesent change the fact that she almoast slept with him while he was dating HER BEST FRIEND BROOKE. And she knew that he liked her so why make out with him and THEN tell him off? huh? and oh, she did not choose brooke because she then choose brooke like twice earlier and then made out with lucas after that so that third time didnt mean anything, she would probably go back and do him that very same night.


And as for season 3. PEYTON DID NOT RUN AFTER LUCAS, she kept her feelings because she did not want to come between Brooke and Lucas. She told Brooke the truth because she wanted to come clean with her "bestfriend" who unfortunately was too darn insecure to realize that Peyton wasn't gonna do anything or say anything about her feelings. Peyton even tried to bring Brooke and Lucas back together (see episode 2, S4). She was willing to stay out of his life if it was needed just so Brooke would take him back (see episode 4 S4) and she didn't say anything about her feelings until after it was REALLY OVER BETWEEN BROOKE AND LUCAS, and even then she didn't force herself to Lucas. She just told him the truth.


Peyton KISSED HIM AGAIN! did you forget about that part. if she wanted to be honest with brooke that badley then why in the hell didnt she tell her about the kiss in the library too? and isnt kissing the boy who used to have feelings for you a way of making him like you again?

Once again, PEYTON NEVER RAN AFTER LUCAS, NEVER STOLE LUCAS. She hasn't done anything that would amount to stealing, you know, something like... hmmm... let me see... stripping in his car? NO she didn't do that. Getting him drunk and wasted to get him to kiss her? Nope, didn't do that either. Throw herself at him with promises of jacuzzi and nudity? Nah, definitely didn't do that.

OKAY FIRST OFF, you say that this amounts to stealing? he was single when brooke did all of those things so whats wrong with it? She didnt think he liked peyton, she didnt think peyton liked him but she knew SHE LIKED HIM so she did those things but theres nothing wrong with that because he was single. And she didnt need to get him drunk to kiss her because he proved alot of times he would like to do that without beeing drunk. Now lets look at the list of things peyton did that brooke didnt.

Peyton said " you wanna play again" brooke never used sleasy comments like that...
Peyton kissed him infront of everybody at the party making brooke feel like a complete idiot since peyton knew brooke like´d him then...
Peyton made out with him WHILE HE WAS DATING BROOKE and then she kept telling him they needed to stop doing it, and then she followed that breakup speech with a kiss...kind of sounds like a DAMN TEASE TO ME! brooke doesent have to tease a guy so that he will start to love her she just has to be her own spunky self. and lucas loves her she is his pretty girl!is and always will be...and when they kiss...damn they kiss!

PEYTON NEVER STOLE LUCAS. You should get that through your thick skulls.

In season 1 Lucas pursued Peyton. He was in love with Peyton and wanted to be with Peyton. Peyton told him off and said that she didn't want to hurt Brooke. And yes, she did gave in eventually. She did sneak around with Lucas behind Brooke's back, BUT SHE LATER BROKE UP WITH LUCAS coz she didn't want to do that to Brooke. GET IT? SHE BROKE UP WITH LUCAS and CHOSE BROOKE OVER LUCAS EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS IN LOVE WITH HIM. SHE BROKE UP WITH LUCAS BEFORE BROOKE FOUND OUT, OK? THEY DIDN'T BREAK UP BECAUSE THEY GOT CAUGHT.

And as for season 3. PEYTON DID NOT RUN AFTER LUCAS, she kept her feelings because she did not want to come between Brooke and Lucas. She told Brooke the truth because she wanted to come clean with her "bestfriend" who unfortunately was too darn insecure to realize that Peyton wasn't gonna do anything or say anything about her feelings. Peyton even tried to bring Brooke and Lucas back together (see episode 2, S4). She was willing to stay out of his life if it was needed just so Brooke would take him back (see episode 4 S4) and she didn't say anything about her feelings until after it was REALLY OVER BETWEEN BROOKE AND LUCAS, and even then she didn't force herself to Lucas. She just told him the truth.

Once again, PEYTON NEVER RAN AFTER LUCAS, NEVER STOLE LUCAS. She hasn't done anything that would amount to stealing, you know, something like... hmmm... let me see... stripping in his car? NO she didn't do that. Getting him drunk and wasted to get him to kiss her? Nope, didn't do that either. Throw herself at him with promises of jacuzzi and nudity? Nah, definitely didn't do that.

FACT IS, LUCAS HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN LOVE WITH PEYTON. THEY ARE MEANT TO BE. SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOGETHER LONG AGO. AND NOW THEY ARE BACK IN EACH OTHER'S ARMS, AND THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE.

I totally love Lucas and Peyton together. LEYTON really works for me.

And after 3 years of trying to comprehend how Lucas, who supposedly has had the biggest crush on Peyton since the 6th grade, could just so easily have a change of heart in a matter of months (2 seasons equal to one school year in the Tree Hill time zone), I am so pleased that the One Tree Hill I used to know is finally back.

It's about time they return the original love angle between Lucas and Peyton. As Skills so famously said "they make sense."

Hey i love oth it is my fav show i just recently started watching it like at the end of season 3 and i fell in love with it i dont miss an episode ever. i cant blieve that derek showed up at paytons door again when i saw that my heart pounded so fast and hard. i get into the show a lot and i can relate to almost all of the characters even to the guys b/c i played basketball mysalf this year and i have friend isseus and booyfriend issues i just really love this shw and i hope that it doesn't end anytime soon. I LOVE YOU ONE TREE HILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

omg. i cannot believe wat happened. y did dat syco hav 2 cum back. i sorta thought it wud happen but i was hopin it didn't. naley r soo cute 2gether, i luv them and i hate it wen dey fight. it was so sad dat chase broke up wit brooke, i lik them 2gether. i luv leyton dey so totally belong 2gether from the very first eppi. rachael is so not leavin at least i hope not. she is a good fren 2 brooke. i don't really care if brooke an peyton don't become frens i think its more funny with them as enemys. this eppi was so awsome. wen is the next eppi anyway. is it april 4, april 11, or march 21. i hope its march 21 cuz that is closer cum on ppl make up ur mind. can't wait till next eppi i'm a total oth fan. oth rules!!!

she had the audacity to give the producers an ultimatum of "it's either chad or me

That is not true at all , that´s just what people are saying . In fact others are saying that it was chad who was like "Either me or sophia" It´s not been stated once that sophia or chad said anything like that , it´s just people talking . Don´t believe everything you read . Besides if they choose to cut sophia off , OTH will looose a lots lots of fans , which they can´t afford incase they want to continue the show .

i couldn't care less if sophia is back next season or not considering she had the audacity to give the producers an ultimatum of "it's either chad or me" after their marriage went sour. she seems to have forgotten that chad plays lucas, the central character. talk about a misplaced ego

As for all the Chad, Hilarie and James fans. Not to worry. When they signed up for the series, each of them were given the full 6 year contract. So if the series is back next season, (keeping my fingers crossed)you can bet your bottom dollar that their characters would all still be gracing your screens.

so when derek comes to peyton's door, i think that some how lucas is going to come to her how and see that obviously derek is there and will save peyton. peyton will end up being ok(i hope) but she will still probably be scared of him like she was before.

well i heard that sophia would like to spend more time on her plans for the big screen and that it'd be possible that she's only a guest in season5... I heard it on a french web site where spoilers have been truthful so far (they also say what is going on in the episode 16 since 2months.. and it is very detailed abd every thing they said has come to be true in the end) so i'm kind of worried...

First of all I want to say that I am so friggin happy that Lucas and Peyton are finally together.

Second, those who keep saying that Peyton shouldn't have kept calling Lucas whenever she was in trouble should go buy the DVDs to refresh their memories.

For those times that Lucas had saved Peyton (i.e. College rapist, school shooting, Psycho Derek), Peyton DID NOT call Lucas.

The first time, it was Brooke who called him, second time, he ran back to the school on his own volition, and third time HE called her.

Lucas saves Peyton not because she asks him to. It's because he chooses to.

He loves her. They're destined to be together and that's just awesome.

It was hypocritical for Brooke to be pissed off at Lucas and Peyton for KISSING and FALLING IN LOVE when she did her own fair share of shady business with Nathan. At least Peyton had the decency to be honest about her crap. Brooke didn't return the favor and for Brooke to be as pissed off as she was and for her to say the hurtful things she said to Peyton about her dead Mom, doesn't even begin to make things Peyton's fault.


OKAY. the FIRST TIME (first time omg) peyton stole lucas she was not honest about the crap, because brooke found out on her own! And what peyton did was worse because brooke and lucas was dating when she sneaked around with him behind brookes back and peyton and nathan were broken up.

That was for Nathan, not Brooke...who was supposed to be her BEST FRIEND. Nathan may be justified in sleeping with Brooke, but Brooke wasn't. Brooke should have been the one to put a stop to it since she IS Peyton's best friend.


"whoever you want" includes brooke and the reason i reacted sp strongly was cause you said that they were still dating when they infact were broken up. brooke made a mistake but not a very big one

Desiree, you are either clueless or delusional.

When Peyton said all she wanted was sex, she was talking about the "i want everything with you. I want us" encounter at Dan's house. She wasn't talking about her subsequent loving relationship with Lucas. She and Lucas were in love, and if not for Peyton's fear of hurting Brooke, they would have never broken up in Season 1.

And FYI, she and Lucas never had sex in Season 1, and as of the latest episode, they still haven't . Besides, aren't you a little presumptuous to point the "all she wanted was sex" finger considering that Brooke's initial intention on Lucas was simply to jump in the sack with him.

And as for her having a chance with Lucas three seasons ago, well, what's your point by saying that? Yes, she did have a chance and she left him. You know why? Because she chose to be friends with Brooke. Which in my opinion was really a mistake considering how Brooke has treated her. But anyway, the "having the chance" is totally a non-issue. What's important is she is with Lucas now. So obviously she never lost that "chance". It was always hers for the taking.

And finally, how can Brooke's having sex with Nathan be Lucas and Peyton's fault? How can they be blamed for something that happened before they even got together? How?

Really Desiree, do you live in a different planet?

I didn't forget that, I just think it's irrelevant. Fact is, I don't think you should be boasting about the "choosing" thing. I mean, seriously, you really wanna go there?

yepp .

Technically, Brooke won Lucas by DEFAULT.

yeah right , You keep imagining that . Your seriosly telling me that Lucas didn´t faall in love with brooke in season 2-3 ? And the word won doesn´t really fit in on what we´re talking about , you see Lucas went after brooke not the other way around .


Bottom line, when it really mattered, Lucas came through and realized he wants everything with the one he loves. He wants it all with Peyton.

Yeah , like he wanted it all with brooke ? What it was like 2-4 episodes later he said the same about peyton , that he wanted her to stand beside him when all his dreams come true ? In case you haven´t noticed Lucas can´t really make up his mind . Either you or me can tell who he really is going to end up with . Let´s just watch and see , shall we ?

And one more thing about the whole dan karen thing , you can´t compare them , they are all different people , they have all different personalyties and different opinions .

However I do respect your opinion , and I hope you do the same with mine . I´m sorry for my behaving , I get a little carried away .

she had SEX with Nathan when he and Peyton were still dating.

dude! peyton said, "you can go sleep with whoever you want" and he did. so dont freakin say they were still dating.

That was for Nathan, not Brooke...who was supposed to be her BEST FRIEND. Nathan may be justified in sleeping with Brooke, but Brooke wasn't. Brooke should have been the one to put a stop to it since she IS Peyton's best friend.

Yes but still Peyton and nathan weren´t dating at the time . And yes , brooke should have been the one to put a stop to it , But the again peyton went behind brookes back and she could of easly stopped as well , plus that brooke and lucas were DATING unlike peyton and nathan .

she had SEX with Nathan when he and Peyton were still dating.

dude! peyton said, "you can go sleep with whoever you want" and he did. so dont freakin say they were still dating.

That was for Nathan, not Brooke...who was supposed to be her BEST FRIEND. Nathan may be justified in sleeping with Brooke, but Brooke wasn't. Brooke should have been the one to put a stop to it since she IS Peyton's best friend.

For those of you guys who are think that Peyton has no grounds to be pissed off at Brooke then you guys are missing the entire point of exactly WHY she's mad.

Yeah she's pissed at Brooke for sleeping with Nathan, but that's not the main reason. The main reason she's mad is because Brooke made such a big a$$ FBI case about Lucas and Peyton's indiscretion and yet compared to HERS, it doesn't compare...at all.

It was hypocritical for Brooke to be pissed off at Lucas and Peyton for KISSING and FALLING IN LOVE when she did her own fair share of shady business with Nathan. At least Peyton had the decency to be honest about her crap. Brooke didn't return the favor and for Brooke to be as pissed off as she was and for her to say the hurtful things she said to Peyton about her dead Mom, doesn't even begin to make things Peyton's fault.

This sex tape only proved that Brooke isn't the best friend everyone seems to think she is.

Them excuses about Nathan and Peyton were broken up??? Weak.

Peyton may not have been the best friend to Brooke but the sex tape proves that neither was Brooke.

I love OTH its hot but not hotter than WWE sorry ya all i have been a wwe fan forever so its both to me


Shaina, I agree with everything you said. Both first and second posts.


LUCAS AND PEYTON FOREVER!!!! :)

hey guys... I'm From France and i just heard that sophia wasn't going to be in all the episodes of season5 and that she would be appearing only as a guest star because Sophia would like to focus on her Cinema career.. I just wanted to have confirmation because i'm kinda shocked.. I hope it s not true because i watch OTH just to see her beautiful eyes and her talent...

What ? I hope it´s not true , where did you hear/read this ?

And oh what was that you said that I had forgotten?
That Lucas chose Brooke twice over Peyton?

I didn't forget that, I just think it's irrelevant. Fact is, I don't think you should be boasting about the "choosing" thing. I mean, seriously, you really wanna go there?

The first time, Lucas himself admitted that he was just HIDING with Brooke. And that he HAD to be with Peyton because as great as Brooke was, she was not Peyton.

As for the second time, you might be forgetting that there was no need to make a choice. It's not like Peyton was right there with them standing in the rain as he made that choice, or that she was somewhere longing to be the chosen girl, or that she presented herself as an available option. Pleezzz, Peyton broke up with Lucas because she didn't want to hurt Brooke, then told him off after the Nikki incident because she said she didn't want to go through again what she went through with Nathan. So, by the time the second alleged "choosing" happened, Peyton had already chosen not to be with Lucas, get it? Technically, Brooke won Lucas by DEFAULT.

Peyton didn't even realized she still had feelings for Lucas all through out Season 2 and most of Season 3. She only realized it recently and it didn't take long for Lucas and her to find their way back to each other.

Bottom line, when it really mattered, Lucas came through and realized he wants everything with the one he loves. He wants it all with Peyton.

Ohhhhhh my freakin god!!!!! the last episode was freakin INSANE I mean why did they have to bring that stupid phsyco Derek back he's a freakin LOSER I hate him with a passion anyways why does he have to stalk peyton why can't he go stalk Brooke or something she's the one that has no one maybe he could take her to prom or something anyways as far as the whole sex tape thing goes all you people know that they both screwed up peyton fucked up when she was with Lucas while Brooke was still with him and Brooke screwed up by having sex with Nathan even though she new that they were probably gonna get back together the next day and everyone knows that even though your broken up it's still wrong to have sex with your bestfriends "ex-bf" and all you "peyton" fans and all you "brooke" fans need to start accecepting that they both backstabbed eachother from the front to the back because I happen to be a peyton fan and I know that peyton screwed up but I still love her cause she's freakin AWESOME.

To the most recent Anonymous poster here, I didn't say anything about Dan and Karen getting back together. But if you want to bring that up, let me say that you just validated my whole point. I'm not sure if you've been paying attention to the details in the show, but if you didn't know, Dan is trying to make amends with Karen. But anyway, however he succeeds on winning her back is beside the point.

I just said that Deb was to Dan, as Brooke was to Lucas. We all know by now that Karen is the love of Dan's life but he was just too proud to admit it and instead opted to take the easy path and marry Deb. Obviously he thought he loved Deb, or at least wanted to think he did. Remember how many times he tried to keep the marriage?

I just wanted to point out the similarity of the situation because when things got difficult, Dan decided to be with Deb and not Karen. The same way that Lucas got together with Brooke because he didn't want to get hurt again.

But then of course it turned out well for Lucas because he is the better man and didn't make the same mistake as Dan. He came to his senses and realized that it's Peyton he had always wanted to be with.

However Dan and Karen's story ends is not an issue. It is his realization that after everything that had happen, he still loves Karen and never stopped loving her. And that's the same realization about his feeling for Peyton, that Lucas has come to terms with in episode9. The only difference is, it wasn't too late for Lucas. It could be for Dan.

Brooke was to Lucas, as Deb was to Dan. Just convenient fillers because the real thing got complicated.

So your seriosly telling me that karen and dan will get together again ? Btw if you´ve forgotten , Lucas choosed Brooke over Peyton , Twice .

Lucas : The truth is I care about peyton
Brooke : Then what is the difference ?
Lucas : The difference ? The difference is that I love you Brooke , I wanna be with you not peyton .

hey guys... I'm From France and i just heard that sophia wasn't going to be in all the episodes of season5 and that she would be appearing only as a guest star because Sophia would like to focus on her Cinema career.. I just wanted to have confirmation because i'm kinda shocked.. I hope it s not true because i watch OTH just to see her beautiful eyes and her talent...

Lucas was in love with Peyton first. And he is in love with her now.

Brooke was to Lucas, as Deb was to Dan. Just convenient fillers because the real thing got complicated. But as well all know true love can't be denied. At least for Lucas, he was a better man and realized his mistake before it was too late.

LEYTON for Life!!!

First of all I am a huge one tree hill fan because it totally can relate to actual happenings. Second of all, Lucas and Peyton are totally to blame for all of this. I like lucas but i hate Peyton she is always getting in the way of Brooke being in love. Brooke really loved lucas and he said he loved her to until Peyton started interfering. Why the hell couldn't she call someone else to come rescue her. She knew that she was the problem between Lucas and Brooke but she never did anything to stop it. She is a huge drama queen and she doesnt deserve lucas. She had her chance three seasons ago in the beginning but all she wanted was sex. The only person that I want her to be with is Jake. They both cared for each other but she got confused and screwed up again. Now Jake is the one with a broken heart. Haley did have a right to be mad but not that mad. She knows Nathan isnt who is was in the past so she should have known he didnt mean for that to happen. Anyways I can't wait for the next episode to air.

Peyton is being such a baby at this point , Like attacking and punching Brooke , And even writing whore on her prom dress , so immature thing to do . She´s taking it to far . I´m not saying that what brooke did was Ok . Actually it was a horrible thing to do but still We all know what kind of person brooke was back then . They´ve both done some terrible stuff in the past . Personally i think what peyton did was still more hurtfull then what brooke did . I mean peyton and nathan were breaking up all the time . Like brooke said their relationship was like a bunch of one night stands put together .

Hello everyone!

Seesh... looks like I'm the nth Sam here.

Anyway, I love the show. One Tree Hill is a whole lot better than the O.C. And seems like it's going to outrun the O.C. as well. Yeeheyy!!!!

After 4 years it's LEYTON now!!! That one took a looonnnggg time. It's destiny at its finest!

I own all three dvds. Worth every penny. :)

I'm with PEYTON on this issue.

How Peyton felt about Nathan back then is irrelevant. It's how she felt about Brooke.

She's pissed because Brooke conveniently hid her hook up with Nathan.

When someone calls a friend a backstabber and a slut for kissing her boyfriend, she shouldn't complain if the same courtesy is bestowed upon her for having sex with that person's on-again-off-again boyfriend.Especially since the sex happened first.

Peyton had the right to be mad.

Practically every character on the show was saying Brooke was wrong. I don't understand why you people don't get it. Why do you insist on your own storylines? It's like the writers say black, and yet you say blue.


I LOVE PEYTON. I hate BROOKE.

Such a hypocrite. At least Peyton had the decency to owe up to her mistakes. Brooke never takes responsibilities for all her screw ups. She even allowed Rachel to take the blame for the calculus fiasco. Some friend she is. Rachel was funny and said the most clever lines and now she got expelled.

And I agree with Purple, PEYTON NEVER STOLE LUCAS, it was Lucas who pursued her! Lucas was in love with her then, as he is now.

Even Haley was mad with the sex tape even when she was not yet in the picture at that time. And Nathan also took the time to apologize to everyone for what happened because he knew that it was inexcusable.
Peyton really had the right to be mad.

Rachel said that Brooke herself knew she was wrong.
Why you people continue to deny it is plain ridiculous.

TEAM PEYTON ALL THE WAY!!!

"she had SEX with Nathan when he and Peyton were still dating. And even if it was after a break up of some sort, it doesn't change the fact that Brooke slept with Nathan minutes, or even seconds after the fight."

I think he/she is right.

Both Brooke and Peyton made mistakes but the difference is Peyton owed up to her shortcomings and Brooke tormented her for that. People should just stop being so naive about all these. I understand that Brooke's fans refuse to accept that she's wrong but I remember Brooke herself told Lucas once (in reference to a kiss shared with Peyton)"A KISS ALWAYS MEANS SOMETHING" So it's really such hypocrisy to say now that the sex with Nathan didn't mean anything. And that they were drunk and that Nathan and Peyton were broken up.

In reality, kissing your friend's bf is wrong. And sneaking behind her back is definitely wrong as well. But sleeping with your friend's on and off again bf, even when during the break, is just as wrong, if not worse. Especially when it was seconds away (watch the episode and observe the time line) from the break up fight.

I'm taking Peyton's side on this because Brooke acted holier-than-thou (if I may borrow the line from another poster) after the Lucas-Peyton incident.

So I say, Brooke deserved the blackeye. Now, the two of them should fix it and if they don't become friends again, that would be fine. Because frankly, that would be just too weird.

P.S I LOVE ONE TREE HILL. Looking forward to its return on April.

i love brooke... hate peyton..

personally i would rather my friend sleep with a guy i do not care about [ aka was not significant ] and is also an EX!!! because peyton did say it was over.. regardless whether they hooked back up later or not. but yes i would rather my friend have sex with an ex that has no meaning that her try to hook up with my *present* boyfriend, which i love by the way. its stupid i think peyton is still worst because she knew that lucas meant alot to brooke.. even if she didnt sleep with him its a pretty messed up thing to do to a friend. i dont see why shes so mad about nathan/brooke anyway... they broke up a long time ago and she never really cared for him anyway. i think shes trying to justify what she did... and personally im not a "brucas" fan... i so do not and did not want brooke to be with lucas.. hes confused and never knows who the hell he wants. so im *for* chase and brooke all the way.. and i prefer rachel over peyton. she may be a slut but is a better friend than peyton ever was.

I hope lucas or brooke come to get her and they all become friends again- oh wait, lucas and peyton are going out. I really want the police to get physco derrick. He creeps me out sooooo much.

she had SEX with Nathan when he and Peyton were still dating.

OMG , listen carefully these were the words peyton used the night it all happened :
Peyton : Your such an ass nathan
Natha : what ? What´s wrong ?
Peyton : what´s wrong !? You mean other then you you´ve made out with half of the cheeerleading squad ?
Nathan : pretty much ya
Peyton : You know what it´s over
Nathan : for ten minutes or till tomorrow this time ?
Peyton : No I mean it we´re done ! Forever . Go sleep with whoever slut you want !
It was something like that . Anyways They weren´t together when brooke slept with nathan ! Damn it , It´s like trying to learn 5 year olds how to read .

she had SEX with Nathan when he and Peyton were still dating.

dude! peyton said, "you can go sleep with whoever you want" and he did. so dont freakin say they were still dating.